| Owen got it wrong when he first put his dodo together. He has based it on that early savory painting. Yeah, so using the bones he procured, he still tried to make them squish into this round, fat dodo. And such was Owen's influence that what he said was the fact, was the truth, and it stayed with us. But Julian has now spent decades hunting for new dodo bones. These are more of your paintings, aren't they? They are. They're beautiful. And as time has passed, his view of what the dodo really looked like has changed dramatically. And I can see that there's quite a difference between, your portrayal the dodo, between this and that one. I must admit that even I've changed my ideas in my lifetime. I started out using the what was then known about the dodo, back about 20 years ago now, having reconstructed a dodo in the fat phase, it's really obese, then going along with the flow at the time. Yeah. But since then, of course, we have had so much more information. And now, this second one, is after I've been to Mauritius a number of times, well we've incorporated correct vegetation and the dodo becomes much much slimmer. Much slimmer, much more realistic. Indeed. | |
| 但欧文第一次却走错了方向，他根据的是早期的画卷，所以他仍试图用手中的骨骼，拼凑出一个肥大的渡渡鸟身躯。鉴于欧文的影响力，公众对他的言论很信服。 于是我们还保存着它，数十年来朱利安一直在探寻新的渡渡鸟骨。 这也是你收藏的画作，对吗？ -说得对 -真漂亮 随着时间的推移，他对渡渡鸟的认识，有了戏剧性的转变。它们之间差别挺大，我必须承认，连我也改变了看法。 20年前，我利用当时掌握的资料，进行创作，重现了渡渡鸟肥胖阶段的形象。它真的太胖了。这是跟随了当时的思想潮流，当然那时我们手中已经有足够多的资料。第二幅画是我从毛里求斯回来后，结合当时正确的植被样貌，而创作成瘦些的渡渡鸟形象。 -瘦一点，也更写实。 -的确 |
| Owen got it wrong when he first put his dodo together. He has based it on that early savory painting. Yeah, so using the bones he procured, he still tried to make them squish into this round, fat dodo. And such was Owen' s influence that what he said was the fact, was the truth, and it stayed with us. But Julian has now spent decades hunting for new dodo bones. These are more of your paintings, aren' t they? They are. They' re beautiful. And as time has passed, his view of what the dodo really looked like has changed dramatically. And I can see that there' s quite a difference between, your portrayal the dodo, between this and that one. I must admit that even I' ve changed my ideas in my lifetime. I started out using the what was then known about the dodo, back about 20 years ago now, having reconstructed a dodo in the fat phase, it' s really obese, then going along with the flow at the time. Yeah. But since then, of course, we have had so much more information. And now, this second one, is after I' ve been to Mauritius a number of times, well we' ve incorporated correct vegetation and the dodo becomes much much slimmer. Much slimmer, much more realistic. Indeed. | |
| dan ou wen di yi ci que zou cuo le fang xiang, ta gen ju de shi zao qi de hua juan, suo yi ta reng shi tu yong shou zhong de gu ge, pin cou chu yi ge fei da de du du niao shen qu. jian yu ou wen de ying xiang li, gong zhong dui ta de yan lun hen xin fu. yu shi wo men hai bao cun zhe ta, shu shi nian lai zhu li an yi zhi zai tan xun xin de du du niao gu. zhe ye shi ni shou cang de hua zuo, dui ma? shuo de dui zhen piao liang sui zhe shi jian de tui yi, ta dui du du niao de ren shi, you le xi ju xing de zhuan bian. ta men zhi jian cha bie ting da, wo bi xu cheng ren, lian wo ye gai bian le kan fa. 20 nian qian, wo li yong dang shi zhang wo de zi liao, jin xing chuang zuo, chong xian le du du niao fei pang jie duan de xing xiang. ta zhen de tai pang le. zhe shi gen sui liao dang shi de si xiang chao liu, dang ran na shi wo men shou zhong yi jing you zu gou duo de zi liao. di er fu hua shi wo cong mao li qiu si hui lai hou, jie he dang shi zheng que de zhi bei yang mao, er chuang zuo cheng shou xie de du du niao xing xiang. shou yi dian, ye geng xie shi. di que |
| Owen got it wrong when he first put his dodo together. He has based it on that early savory painting. Yeah, so using the bones he procured, he still tried to make them squish into this round, fat dodo. And such was Owen' s influence that what he said was the fact, was the truth, and it stayed with us. But Julian has now spent decades hunting for new dodo bones. These are more of your paintings, aren' t they? They are. They' re beautiful. And as time has passed, his view of what the dodo really looked like has changed dramatically. And I can see that there' s quite a difference between, your portrayal the dodo, between this and that one. I must admit that even I' ve changed my ideas in my lifetime. I started out using the what was then known about the dodo, back about 20 years ago now, having reconstructed a dodo in the fat phase, it' s really obese, then going along with the flow at the time. Yeah. But since then, of course, we have had so much more information. And now, this second one, is after I' ve been to Mauritius a number of times, well we' ve incorporated correct vegetation and the dodo becomes much much slimmer. Much slimmer, much more realistic. Indeed. | |
| dàn ōu wén dì yī cì què zǒu cuò le fāng xiàng, tā gēn jù de shì zǎo qī de huà juàn, suǒ yǐ tā réng shì tú yòng shǒu zhōng de gǔ gé, pīn còu chū yí gè féi dà de dù dù niǎo shēn qū. jiàn yú ōu wén de yǐng xiǎng lì, gōng zhòng duì tā de yán lùn hěn xìn fú. yú shì wǒ men hái bǎo cún zhe tā, shù shí nián lái zhū lì ān yī zhí zài tàn xún xīn de dù dù niǎo gǔ. zhè yě shì nǐ shōu cáng de huà zuò, duì ma? shuō de duì zhēn piào liàng suí zhe shí jiān de tuī yí, tā duì dù dù niǎo de rèn shi, yǒu le xì jù xìng de zhuǎn biàn. tā men zhī jiān chā bié tǐng dà, wǒ bì xū chéng rèn, lián wǒ yě gǎi biàn le kàn fǎ. 20 nián qián, wǒ lì yòng dāng shí zhǎng wò de zī liào, jìn xíng chuàng zuò, chóng xiàn le dù dù niǎo féi pàng jiē duàn de xíng xiàng. tā zhēn de tài pàng le. zhè shì gēn suí liǎo dàng shí de sī xiǎng cháo liú, dāng rán nà shí wǒ men shǒu zhōng yǐ jīng yǒu zú gòu duō de zī liào. dì èr fú huà shì wǒ cóng máo lǐ qiú sī huí lái hòu, jié hé dāng shí zhèng què de zhí bèi yàng mào, ér chuàng zuò chéng shòu xiē de dù dù niǎo xíng xiàng. shòu yì diǎn, yě gèng xiě shí. dí què |
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